IndyCar fans learned series may guarantee spots on Indy 500 grid. Their reaction was fierce.
“A slap in the face to tradition.”
“Would be one of the worst decisions made in the history of motorsports.”
“It’s a competition, not a charity.”
It’s unlikely anyone has ever accused IndyCar fans of not being passionate – especially in the era of social media – but Monday erased all doubt. Emotions ranged from anger and vitriol to sadness, frustration and confusion, upon learning that Penske Entertainment officials are weighing the idea of guaranteeing an unknown number of spots on the starting grid for the Indianapolis 500. Those spots would be available to those who land a position in IndyCar’s yet-to-be-finalized revamped membership system.
Details about such a system, which would replace the current Leaders Circle that pays roughly $1 million each year to the previous season’s top 22 in entrant points, are far from finalized. IndyCar leadership will have to decide how many spots they’ll hand out, how many each team can have and whether teams can operate full-time cars outside it.
Big changes coming to 500 qualifying?: IndyCar weighing guaranteed entries as part of membership program
The idea, Penske Entertainment Corp. president and CEO Mark Miles has explained previously, is to not only promise teams annual cuts of the series’ revenue, but to give them an asset they can sell if they wish to downsize or leave the sport. NASCAR’s charter system, launched in 2016, operates off similar principles, albeit with a far more lucrative TV contract to tap into. Before the existence of charters, NASCAR gave the top 35 in ownership points better odds at making the Daytona 500, but spots weren’t guaranteed. The launch of charters locked in 36 of the 40 spots.
IndyCar’s version of a new membership system isn’t guaranteed to lock those included into each race, but it’s been floated as a valuable safeguard for team owners for whom missing the 500 could be a grave disaster. Major teams – Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing, Andretti Global, McLaren Racing, Schmidt Peterson Motorsports, Dale Coyne Racing, AJ Foyt Racing – have all had at least one car bumped in the last 15 years. All of them are still active, but teams are always worried about being the one who can’t bounce back.
But almost unanimously, IndyCar and Indy 500 fans screamed Monday that the risk is what makes the Greatest Spectacle in Racing … well, just that. It’s one of the few places in sports where a true David vs. Goliath moment can exist – and far more frequently during qualifying weekend than over the course of 200 laps on Memorial Day weekend. Its century-plus history, they claim, is so centrally tethered to the idea that any car, team and driver operating within the series’ rules can take a stab at qualifying for the Indy 500, and when the dust settles, it’s the fastest 33 who make up the grid.
Under this potential – again, to reiterate, not finalized nor guaranteed – system, somewhere between 22 and 25 spots on the Indy 500 grid would be pre-determined to go to full-time entries, with anywhere between 8-11 still up for grabs, either to other full-time teams’ extra cars (if allowed), part-time teams or Indy 500-only teams.
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Eliminating bumping isn’t on the table, but as some fans wrote Monday, Bump Day just isn’t the same when not every car is at risk. The common theme – though often incorrectly characterized – was the similarities to the Indy Racing League’s 25-8 rule that sprung up in the early days of "The Split," which Tony George used to attempt to persuade more cars to run the full IRL schedule – dedicated CART teams included. In it, the top-25 in points in the IRL entering the 500 would be guaranteed starting spots, but CART owners saw the move as a way to lock out those who stood firm against George’s crusade to protect the sanctity of American drivers, oval tracks and the 500.
Talks about IndyCar’s future membership systems are ongoing and won’t be launched for the 2024 season, and they aren’t guaranteed for 2025. If such a day comes, though − should Roger Penske, Chip Ganassi, Michael Andretti and company aren’t faced with the same nerves on Indy 500 qualifying weekend as small, upstart teams − it’s hard to imagine there won’t be a smattering of boos from the grandstands at IMS over the roars of the engines mid-May.
Here are more of what IndyCar fans had to say on X (formerly known as Twitter) on Monday:
I need to make it to a live 500 before this happens. Will no longer be a special race. https://t.co/qFfxIJUaQj
— Tommy Dubs (@tomwisbrewski) February 5, 2024
How to ruin the prestige of the before event hype, look at the Daytona 500 @IndyCar, there is very little hype or stakes going on before the race because 90 percent of the field is automatically locked in.
— Wargiven27 (@WGiven27) February 5, 2024
If the owners want it I'll be OK with it but I'd like to see a vote on it because it'll be difficult to get 33 if they're competing for 6 spots instead of 33 spots.
— Ryan Terpstra (@trc_terpstra) February 5, 2024
You do this and you take away moments like last year. Jack Harvey on a hail Mary attempt bumps out his teammate to get into the race. Indy 500 qualifying is one of the best things in the world because of this. You can't give guaranteed spots https://t.co/n31k6TLKRM
— Nick (@Nickc207) February 5, 2024
— Jeremy Grey (@jeremygrey11) February 5, 2024
It's his sandbox, but I could not disagree more with guaranteed 500 slots. The starting field should always endeavor to be the fastest 33 cars in Gasoline Alley each year. https://t.co/xYORNlNTML
— Jon Easter (@johnnystir) February 5, 2024
Guaranteed Indy 500 spots is a slap in the face to tradition.
Hell I think the Daytona 500 would be better with no one locked in! https://t.co/dFmG2m7a7u— Darian Gilliam (@BlackFlagMatter) February 5, 2024
No no no no no no no. This sport's leadership keeps making it worse and worse. They need to stop. Pathetic that now even Indy isn't safe from them. If you want to be in the 500, do the work and build a car fast enough. Greedy people who care more about themselves more than Indy.
— Tom Lassarsy (@Lassarsy) February 5, 2024
I get it and I also hate it.
— Aimee (@Indy_Aimee) February 5, 2024
As a lifelong IndyCar fan, I will stop watching the sport if they do it. Call me crazy, I don’t care. Indy 500 qualifying is the best day of the year.
— Trey Lower 🎙️ (@TreyLowerPxP) February 5, 2024
Dont change the 500. The race entry is earned not bought.
— Jeryn Fast (@JJFast31) February 5, 2024
I get it. I understand why teams would want that.
But losing Bump Day would be absolutely criminal to the sport. Knowing that the only people truly at risk are usually the ones risking the most doesn’t sit right with me. https://t.co/bFXgtmf4dR— Zach Steinmetz🌽 (@ZSteins_) February 5, 2024
Locked in spots for The Indy 500 would be one of the worst decisions made in the history of Motorsports. It should be the Fastest 33 https://t.co/yuXec7fesI
— Daniel Kriete (@DanielKriete4) February 5, 2024
Nooooooo… don’t ruin bump day for us please
— Megan (@williamsburg_12) February 5, 2024
Like with Nascar I can see both sides.
Racing is so expensive and more sponsor driven than stick and ball sports which makes it so completely different.
Balancing the desire of fans, and their love of history and drama with owners, sponsors and series needs is so difficult. https://t.co/KAEsHmrzjA— Money Talks (@MoneyTalks1992_) February 5, 2024
Absolutely not. It's a competition, not a charity. If you aren't fast enough, you watch from the stands.
— . (@Garrett__003) February 5, 2024
Do you think RLL would have worked as hard as they did the last 2/3 of the season if they were guaranteed a starting spot in May?
Failure is part of life, and this sport. Especially THIS event.#Fastest33 || #Indy500 https://t.co/4GQpOiI2bj pic.twitter.com/p0zCCohv16— Bryan Friedrich (@500Indy1911) February 5, 2024
Guaranteed 500 entries is a contentious subject, it is in the DNA of the fans to embrace the fastest 33 notion, we have grown up celebrating the tradition of bumping. Survival of the sport is critical too though, interested to see how this conversation progresses 🤔 #SkyIndyCar https://t.co/ecwAUUyZsB
— Tom Gaymor 🎙️ (@TomGaymor) February 5, 2024
I hate it when business takes priority for the survival of a series at the cost of tradition and fanfare
A return to the 25-8 rule shows IndyCar (IRL) has never moved on from Tony George nor 1996 entirely https://t.co/ZBDfk15wS2— Milton Valenzuela (@Milton_Valenz) February 5, 2024
— Adam (@AdamJ556) February 5, 2024
Of course teams want to be locked into the Indy 500, the whole series exists to support one weekend. The teams are always on shaky ground. Locked in spots are coming, most other traditions that make Indycar unique have been changed https://t.co/YJL6WA7BOQ
— nascarman (@nascarman_rr) February 5, 2024
I've got this great idea, I'm not sure how it came to me, it just did. Guarantee a spot in the Indianapolis 500 to the thirty-three fastest qualifiers. Unbelievably good idea I just came up with right just now. Patent pending. https://t.co/c5yNS0vPJS
— Matthew Owens (@MatthewOwensPxP) February 5, 2024
— Cassie 🏁 (@mama_gforce) February 5, 2024
I think having something like 24 charters that the teams own and can transfer and sell makes sense. I get the emotion and history but the Indy 500 stopped being a stand alone race decades ago. People need to realize the thing you’re trying to protect has already been neutered.
— Michael Pechar (@MichaelPechar) February 5, 2024
Nope…. Fastest 33…. No lock in!
We don’t do that over here. It’s the fastest 33. And if you aren’t fast enough you just don’t make it. Tough luck.
Other series can pull that, but not the greatest race there is! https://t.co/rxxlvXtt8w— Breanna Branch ™ (@treegirl1006) February 5, 2024
Thanks, I hate it. https://t.co/OIySMEnY8g
— Florida Man George (@butzisnutz4) February 5, 2024
My heart says this but my head says we need money to keep racing. At some point there has to be a reward for sponsors on the full time entries. I hate to even write it but we are talking about survival. I want IndyCar to be around for my son and my future grandkids.
— Amanda Bauer (@indyracefan12) February 5, 2024
One of the best thing about the Indy 500 is that no one has a guaranteed spot. Everything is open and no one is safe no matter who you drive for, full time or one off entry it doesn't matter https://t.co/jMZgNKZ6pr
— Alex (@ghostly_alex_) February 5, 2024
Oh no… oh no no no no no https://t.co/u7ucCt0x6L
— Christian Schloemer (@Schl0moti0n) February 5, 2024
You get a spot, you get a spot , everyone gets a grid spot pic.twitter.com/pQ6lR8jBYt
— Corey Johnson (@CoJo617) February 5, 2024
This is a repeat of 25/8, which ironically was a big thorn in reconciliation in the Split. The drama of qualifying is one of the biggest stories in a series with limited exposure. Taking that away could be restrictive to growth just for the sake of the stakeholders. https://t.co/M73xyH3Oqr
— Tom Blackburn (@TomBlackburn42) February 5, 2024
Motorsports love to alienate their hardcore fans https://t.co/ijA0K9cVRq
— LoganTeal86 (@teal_report) February 5, 2024
We Indycar fans are definitely super chill and easygoing when it comes to messing with the 500's historic tenets and we definitely won't mind messing with the rules in a way that allows small teams to be punished after big teams poop their pants on the sports' biggest stage. https://t.co/zREtQAjAaE
— SuedeOxford (@SuedeOxford) February 5, 2024
Me, thinking about the days of the 25/8 rule. https://t.co/qBdYi74HKq pic.twitter.com/4DsTb4MfdX
— Ray Biggs (Did not make it through Tacos 24) (@D3HkyBiggsy) February 5, 2024
reason #58290582390 why i hate the charter system
its going to leak its way into indycar. disgusting. https://t.co/XBbSGWW9Xv— 𝚁𝚢𝚊𝚗. (@rnyaknderick0) February 5, 2024
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