'The market is getting way ahead of itself now:' portfolio manager

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“We certainly believe that the market is getting way ahead of itself now,” Alex Pire, head of client portfolio management at Seeyond, told Yahoo Finance. “There is this sort of cognitive disconnect between the way the market is functioning and what we’re hearing about the economy.”

On Thursday the S&P 500 (^GSPC) was about 29% above its March 23 low, while the Nasdaq Composite (^IXIC) erased its 2020 losses to close positive for the year. Paypal (PYPL), Peloton (PTON), and Twilio (TWLO) all touched new highs following their quarterly results.

“A lot of the companies that have been doing well are the kinds of companies that you would expect to do well in an environment where we're all stuck at home,” said Pire.

He notes markets are a forward-looking mechanism, however companies have been giving little guidance due to the pandemic.

“Most companies are removing guidance. The only guidance that we’re getting is, ‘Well, Q2 is probably going to be worse.’ We’re not really getting specifics around what ‘worse’ might mean,” said Pire.

He also highlights there is no COVID-19 vaccine yet, though encouraging developments are underway.

“We’re a little bit too far into this rally at this point, and that may not be a very strong signal in my mind for investors to get in,” added Pire.

A man wearing a face mask takes a selfie at the Charging Bull statue on March 23, 2020  near the New Stock Exchange in New York City. - Wall Street fell early March 23, 2020 as Congress wrangled over a massive stimulus package while the Federal Reserve unveiled new emergency programs to boost the economy including with unlimited bond buying. About 45 minutes into trading, the Dow Jones Industrial Average was down 0.6 percent at 19,053.17, and the broad-based S&P 500 also fell 0.6 percent to 2,290.31 after regaining some ground lost just after the open. (Photo by Angela Weiss / AFP) (Photo by ANGELA WEISS/AFP via Getty Images)
A man wearing a face mask takes a selfie at the Charging Bull statue on March 23, 2020 near the New Stock Exchange in New York City. (Photo by Angela Weiss / AFP) (Photo by ANGELA WEISS/AFP via Getty Images)

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Pire says the Federal Reserve interventions and government stimulus will keep the markets from retesting the March 23rd lows.

“Now do we retrace 10, 15%? That’s a high potential,” said Pire. “We’re expecting a small retracement at some point, some elevated volatility over the next few months, probably 6 to 12 months.”

The market ‘has shaken off bad news fairly easily’

April’s jobs report due out on Friday is expected to show the ’horrific’ impact of COVID-19 on the economy. Pire wouldn’t be surprised if the markets shrug off the expected double-digit unemployment rate.

“Even if the news is negative meaning - its another poor unemployment number, it provides information to people and I think it gives a sense of relief in a way,” said Pire. “The market has been very very resilient and has shaken off bad news fairly easily for the past month or so.”

Another 3.169 million Americans filed for first time unemployment benefits last week, bringing the latest 7-week total to more than 33 million.


Ines covers the U.S. stock market from the floor of the New York Exchange. Follow her on Twitter at @ines_ferre

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